Mar 12

Written by: Toledo Campus
3/12/2008 3:20 PM

This was sent to me recently.  It was written by Craig Groeschel, Senior Pastor at Lifechurch in Oklahoma.  Groeschel is one of the most respected and influential leaders in the church today, so at first some of the following was a bit surprising.  However, if we are all honest with ourselves, I think we will realize that many of these 'confessions' apply to each of us as well.  Let me hear your thoughts...Mark

 

* New confession: I am a practical atheist. That is, I believe God exists but I sometimes live as      though He doesn't.
    * I believe in God, but sometimes I do ministry as though He doesn't exist.
    * When I would tell people I was praying for them it was almost always a lie.
    * I heard Hybels say, "The way that I was doing the work of God was destroying the work of God in me."
    * When we slip into practical atheism we rely more on our own efforts than God's power.
    * When we slip into practical atheism we start to believe that our private life won't affect our ministry.
    * I ask my team, "If something is going to take you out, what will it be?" We all have those areas. And they change over time.
    * I was more afraid of what people would think than what God would think.
    * We should use culture as a hook, but we can't stop there. We must bring God's Word to speak to culture.
    * I don't know any substitute for spending time in God's Word, fasting, praying,
    * I've learned to step into authentic confession. You confess to God for forgiveness, but you confess to people for healing.
    * I'm in recovery for my practical atheism. I'm in a divine discomfort, a disturbed place, wanting more of God.

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8 comments so far...

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Hey wait a minute. I sent that to you and you totally stole my next blog...

By Jason on   10/14/2007 3:09 PM

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I was kind of waiting for you to do something with it, but then your whole life got wrapped up around a broken car window. :)

By Toledo on   10/14/2007 3:18 PM

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i'll tell you what, i'm really fed up with knowing that i'm a saved christian and not living like it. day after day after day i mess up. i feel as though i'm stuck in a rut doing the same things over and over. i want to live right, i truely do. i pray with all of my heart for to take control of my life because i can't do it in my own strength, but then i screw up again. i've been saved for a long time. i accepted christ, he is my savior, i desire to live for him, i do great for a while , screw up for a while, it's like a rollercoaster and i just want off. i've witnessed to people, lead people to christ, my kids are saved, i see god working in all of these peoples lives, i'm sincere in my heart yet as truely willing as i am god just doesn't seem to be breaking the chains. i don't understand how someone so willing to change can stay so screwed up. i know with all of my heart that God is real, and that is exactly why i am so frusterated. if i was unsure of his existance, then i could understand my struggle.

By who am i on   10/15/2007 7:06 AM

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Hey Who Am I, i think I could've written your post, it's my life for the past ten years!! You'd think I'd be way better by now!! There are 2 passages I continually fall back on to keep me going, 2 Corinthians 12: 7-9 which is the one about the thorn in Paul's flesh, look it up, it's very inspiring. Between that and Paul's past that included severe persecution of Christ followers I take comfort in knowing what good God can do with mega-sinners, He never gives up on us! Also, maybe someone can help me find the passage that refers to God finishing the work He began in us, I can't seem to locate it right now. But I can DEFINITELY relate to your plight, it's like a bitter cycle, really good for a while then really bad for a while. OH, I remembered another, Romans 7: 18-20 "I know that nothing good lives in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. For what I do is not the good I want to do; no, the evil I do not want to do-this I keep on doing. Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it." AND THIS GUY WROTE MOST OF THE NEW TESTAMENT, ain't that great??? There's hope for us!! Actually, in my own case i suspect i know why I have progressed so little, i don't carve time out each day to read the Bible. I read it very little, actually. I spend my time doing "busy" things that are not eternal, stupid me. But I am confident i'll get there, at least i know where the problem lies. That and i need to surround myself with more practicing Christians, I'm also making concrete steps to do that, like getting more involved in church. Sorry this is so long, but i'm so comforted to know i'm not the only one who feels like a failing Christian!! It gets lonely!!!

By Weak on   10/15/2007 11:00 AM

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thanks, that helped. i'm going to look at those verses when i get home tonight. like you said, at least i'm not alone in this struggle. thanks again.

By who am i on   10/15/2007 4:59 PM

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To Who am i and Weak: I was very encouraged (yes, encouraged) by both your entries. This disease of the soul plagues daily and I wrestle with it almost minute by minute. I too, believe in God and love and accept his Son, Jesus Christ. I think I live daily with the guilt of knowing what I believe and what I do are two different things. Being from a background of Sunday only Christians, I have many years of habits in my life that I have to shake off. I too have prayed, and received some relief, but it doesn't last long. The good news, I think, for all of us is the constant struggle. If God had given up on us, he wouldn't be constantly in our heads encouraging and urging us to try again, try harder, do more, do better. I feel your pain, and I'm so grateful to read that you feel mine. I'll pray for you and I'd appreciate your prayers as well.

By Ditto on   10/25/2007 7:30 AM

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thanks ditto,
i'd never thought of it like that before.
you know, pastor lee said once, if anyone is hurting, struggling with an issues in thier life, or has any kind of problem they need help with, they should check out the "life support" group. he closed that statement by saying " i guess that means we should all be there ." i think that it helps me to know, that even someone as devoted to god as pastor lee is, has struggles too.
the part that i still frustrates me though, is that if i decide to do something with my life, i do it. if i get a job, i'm dedicated to that job and my employer, if i decide to go to college to further my education, even though school is a big struggle for me, i still succeed at it. no matter what i set my mind to do, i can do it. but when i set my mind to be faithful to be faithful to god, i fail every time.
i know that if i could just succeed at living the rest of my life for christ, knowing him better and what his purpose is for me, and knowing that he is pleased with me, then i would be truly content and happy.

thanks for praying for me, i'll pray for you also.

By who am i on   10/25/2007 10:59 AM

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Craig Groeschel hit the nail on the head.

Finnally! All this time it seemed like everyone else in the church had it together and was "walking with The King" in a flawless manner all time, and that I was the only one around here living as if God didn't exist.

It is encouraging to hear honesty - reflecting in the mirror of truth.

Sometimes I don't believe in the things I believe in. I Forget God exist. I feel I am like the most important thing in my life. Usually I can't see past my own opinions long enough to even get a glimpse of you guys so how can I ever follow the command, what was it... "Love your neighbor as yourself."

But once in a while...

Thanks!

By Falling Forever on   11/13/2007 5:53 PM

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